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	<title>Comments on: Florida Cases Interpreting Section 776.041: Person Who &quot;Initially Provoked&quot; Incident May Not Claim Self Defense</title>
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		<title>By: Sick Of Lies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sick Of Lies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 03:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gandydancer - You left out a critical part of the 776.041 - An aggressor can only claim self-defense IF THEY&#039;VE MADE EVERY EFFORT TO WITHDRAW FROM THE SITUATION and if they clearly signaled to the person they started the conflict with that they wish to withdraw. If the other person tries to keep the conflict going anyway only then can they use NON-LETHAL defense. They can only use LETHAL force if they&#039;re about to be killed.

[b](b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.[/b]

There is absolutely no evidence George Zimmerman ever tried to withdraw from the situation, that he signaled this to Trayvon, that Trayvon hit him unprovoked, or that Zimmerman was about to die. From what we know about his injuries they were fairly mild, no indication deadly force was used against Zimmerman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gandydancer &#8211; You left out a critical part of the 776.041 &#8211; An aggressor can only claim self-defense IF THEY&#039;VE MADE EVERY EFFORT TO WITHDRAW FROM THE SITUATION and if they clearly signaled to the person they started the conflict with that they wish to withdraw. If the other person tries to keep the conflict going anyway only then can they use NON-LETHAL defense. They can only use LETHAL force if they&#039;re about to be killed.</p>
<p>[b](b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.[/b]</p>
<p>There is absolutely no evidence George Zimmerman ever tried to withdraw from the situation, that he signaled this to Trayvon, that Trayvon hit him unprovoked, or that Zimmerman was about to die. From what we know about his injuries they were fairly mild, no indication deadly force was used against Zimmerman.</p>
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		<title>By: Trayvon Martin Case: Does Zimmerman’s Self Defense Claim Depend on Who Started the Fight? &#124; pridek news mag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trayvon Martin Case: Does Zimmerman’s Self Defense Claim Depend on Who Started the Fight? &#124; pridek news mag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 23:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] means to escape” and some in the legal community have argued that provoking the incident immediately eliminates any opportunity to invoke the defense. In particular, I think the defense would have trouble arguing that after getting your butt kicked [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] means to escape” and some in the legal community have argued that provoking the incident immediately eliminates any opportunity to invoke the defense. In particular, I think the defense would have trouble arguing that after getting your butt kicked [...]</p>
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		<title>By: FlaEMT</title>
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		<dc:creator>FlaEMT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 01:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Vila v State of Florida, the point you&#039;re missing is that the defendant was convicted of burglary, a crime specifically listed by Florida statute FS776.08 as a &quot;forcible felony&quot;.  Under FS776.041(1), anyone guilty of a forcible felony is precluded from claiming self defense regardless of the exceptions listed in FS776.041(2).  Since there have yet to be any charges, let alone a conviction for a forcible felony against Zimmerman, the precedent would not apply here.  

In Johnson v. State, The question was to whether FS776.041 should have been included in jury instructions.  The instructions as given during the trial included FS776.041(2)(a), the exception you claim can&#039;t apply due to Johnson.  The appellate court upheld the instructions as given, including the section starting &quot;(unless)Such force is so great. . .&quot;  This would affirm, rather that override the exception to &quot;use of Force by Aggressor&quot;.

As stated by others here, the older precedents would also not apply, since they were made under different statutes than apply now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Vila v State of Florida, the point you&#039;re missing is that the defendant was convicted of burglary, a crime specifically listed by Florida statute FS776.08 as a &#034;forcible felony&#034;.  Under FS776.041(1), anyone guilty of a forcible felony is precluded from claiming self defense regardless of the exceptions listed in FS776.041(2).  Since there have yet to be any charges, let alone a conviction for a forcible felony against Zimmerman, the precedent would not apply here.  </p>
<p>In Johnson v. State, The question was to whether FS776.041 should have been included in jury instructions.  The instructions as given during the trial included FS776.041(2)(a), the exception you claim can&#039;t apply due to Johnson.  The appellate court upheld the instructions as given, including the section starting &#034;(unless)Such force is so great. . .&#034;  This would affirm, rather that override the exception to &#034;use of Force by Aggressor&#034;.</p>
<p>As stated by others here, the older precedents would also not apply, since they were made under different statutes than apply now.</p>
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		<title>By: News Videos - NEWSTALKTV24.COM</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 22:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to escape” and some in the legal community have argued that provoking the incident immediately eliminates any opportunity to invoke the defense. In particular, I think the defense would have trouble arguing that after getting your butt kicked [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to escape” and some in the legal community have argued that provoking the incident immediately eliminates any opportunity to invoke the defense. In particular, I think the defense would have trouble arguing that after getting your butt kicked [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Does Zimmerman&#8217;s Self Defense Claim Depend on Who Started the Fight? &#124; Top Current Event News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Does Zimmerman&#8217;s Self Defense Claim Depend on Who Started the Fight? &#124; Top Current Event News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 19:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ;means to escape” and some in the legal community have argued that provoking the incident ;immediately eliminates any opportunity to invoke the defense. In particular, I think the defense would have trouble arguing that after getting your butt kicked [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ;means to escape” and some in the legal community have argued that provoking the incident ;immediately eliminates any opportunity to invoke the defense. In particular, I think the defense would have trouble arguing that after getting your butt kicked [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Trayvon Martin Case: Does Zimmerman&#8217;s Self Defense Claim Depend on Who Started the Fight? - ABC News</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trayvon Martin Case: Does Zimmerman&#8217;s Self Defense Claim Depend on Who Started the Fight? - ABC News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 18:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to escape&#8221; and some in the legal community have argued that provoking the incident&#160;immediately eliminates any opportunity to invoke the defense. In particular, I think the defense would have trouble arguing that after getting your butt kicked [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to escape&#034; and some in the legal community have argued that provoking the incident&#160;immediately eliminates any opportunity to invoke the defense. In particular, I think the defense would have trouble arguing that after getting your butt kicked [...]</p>
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		<title>By: If George Zimmerman Started Fight With Trayvon Martin, Can He Still Claim Self-Defense?&#124;PolitifreakPolitifreak</title>
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		<dc:creator>If George Zimmerman Started Fight With Trayvon Martin, Can He Still Claim Self-Defense?&#124;PolitifreakPolitifreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 17:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] means to escape&#8221; and some in the legal community have argued that provoking the incident immediately eliminates any opportunity to invoke the defense. In particular, I think the defense would have trouble arguing that after getting your butt kicked [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] means to escape&#034; and some in the legal community have argued that provoking the incident immediately eliminates any opportunity to invoke the defense. In particular, I think the defense would have trouble arguing that after getting your butt kicked [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gandydancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gandydancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 04:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dunno what this recitation of supposed dicta from obsolete cases is supposed to prove. The -current- law is as follows:

&quot;776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:

(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless: ...

(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or...&quot;

So even if Z HAD initially provoked TM he was justified in using deadly force in self-defense if he &quot;reasonably believed he was in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm&quot;. (Barring a contemporaneous independent forcible felony by GZ - section (1), which I&#039;ve omitted as it cannot apply in the absence of a charge).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dunno what this recitation of supposed dicta from obsolete cases is supposed to prove. The -current- law is as follows:</p>
<p>&#034;776.041 Use of force by aggressor.—The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:</p>
<p>(2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless: &#8230;</p>
<p>(a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or&#8230;&#034;</p>
<p>So even if Z HAD initially provoked TM he was justified in using deadly force in self-defense if he &#034;reasonably believed he was in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm&#034;. (Barring a contemporaneous independent forcible felony by GZ &#8211; section (1), which I&#039;ve omitted as it cannot apply in the absence of a charge).</p>
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		<title>By: Sparkie&#039;s Review &#187; Zimmerman Will Be Convicted and This is Why</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sparkie&#039;s Review &#187; Zimmerman Will Be Convicted and This is Why</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 22:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] can toddle over to this Ohio legal blog where they have excerpted some Florida case law which is relevant. Mixon v. StateÂ  (1952) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] can toddle over to this Ohio legal blog where they have excerpted some Florida case law which is relevant. Mixon v. StateÂ  (1952) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tameshia Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tameshia Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2012 21:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...George!!!! Strong words there...but you are wrong...Even if that was the case..you mean to tell me Zimmerman was not able to fight back on a 17 yr old unarmed teen??? So his only OPTION was to use his gun? RIGHT? Tell me this was the gun on his persons from the beginning or did he go back to the car to get the gun? Or maybe this..How is it that he was able to shot him if they were struggling? This DOES NOT ADD UP!!!!! Or maybe this...YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;George!!!! Strong words there&#8230;but you are wrong&#8230;Even if that was the case..you mean to tell me Zimmerman was not able to fight back on a 17 yr old unarmed teen??? So his only OPTION was to use his gun? RIGHT? Tell me this was the gun on his persons from the beginning or did he go back to the car to get the gun? Or maybe this..How is it that he was able to shot him if they were struggling? This DOES NOT ADD UP!!!!! Or maybe this&#8230;YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Gunsmoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gunsmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George, your conclusion is based on the narrative of the Zimmerman camp.  Have you judged that what the 16 y/o girlfriend has stated hearing has no merit?  To conclude Zimmerman&#039;s version is the sole truth is indicative of one who has an agenda other than seeking truth and justice.  Her statement is contradictory of Zimmerman&#039;s therefore no conclusion should be made until the veracity of each has been THOROUGHLY scrutinized.  Check the timeline of the call Zimmerman made, specifically from when he said Martin was running, until he said &quot;Ok&quot;, when 911 said &quot;We don&#039;t need you to do that.  20 secs elapsed.  He spoke with 911 for more than 1 1/2 minutes after that...how long did it take him to get back to his vehicle?  WE DON&#039;T KNOW.  No one knows if he actually was returning to his vehicle.  HE states that, but is it consistent with his words in the call?  His actions reflected in the call?  Certainly not.  In context with the girlfriend&#039;s statement, which seems to have some credibility, because she states Martin believed &quot;he lost him&quot;.  Zimmerman told 911 he lost him.  She then states Martin said, &quot;He&#039;s behind me again.&quot;  She heard Martin ask him why he was following him.  A voice, presumably Zimmerman&#039;s, replied, &quot;What are you doing around here?&quot;.  Then what she believed was &quot;someone pushing Trayvon.&quot;  Of course, she can&#039;t know that, but the versions conflict...it should all be heard by a jury and they will determine the veracity of each claim based on whatever is presented.   Why have you discounted her statement in favor of only Zimmerman&#039;s narrative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, your conclusion is based on the narrative of the Zimmerman camp.  Have you judged that what the 16 y/o girlfriend has stated hearing has no merit?  To conclude Zimmerman&#039;s version is the sole truth is indicative of one who has an agenda other than seeking truth and justice.  Her statement is contradictory of Zimmerman&#039;s therefore no conclusion should be made until the veracity of each has been THOROUGHLY scrutinized.  Check the timeline of the call Zimmerman made, specifically from when he said Martin was running, until he said &#034;Ok&#034;, when 911 said &#034;We don&#039;t need you to do that.  20 secs elapsed.  He spoke with 911 for more than 1 1/2 minutes after that&#8230;how long did it take him to get back to his vehicle?  WE DON&#039;T KNOW.  No one knows if he actually was returning to his vehicle.  HE states that, but is it consistent with his words in the call?  His actions reflected in the call?  Certainly not.  In context with the girlfriend&#039;s statement, which seems to have some credibility, because she states Martin believed &#034;he lost him&#034;.  Zimmerman told 911 he lost him.  She then states Martin said, &#034;He&#039;s behind me again.&#034;  She heard Martin ask him why he was following him.  A voice, presumably Zimmerman&#039;s, replied, &#034;What are you doing around here?&#034;.  Then what she believed was &#034;someone pushing Trayvon.&#034;  Of course, she can&#039;t know that, but the versions conflict&#8230;it should all be heard by a jury and they will determine the veracity of each claim based on whatever is presented.   Why have you discounted her statement in favor of only Zimmerman&#039;s narrative?</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The situation changed when Treyvun confronted George. With George walking away, he was no longer a threat to Treyvun. Treyvun became a threat to George, when Treyvun asked George if he had a problem, and then punched George in the face and knocked him down and sat astride Geoge and banged George&#039;s head on the concrete, causing a wound.At that point, in fear of death or bodily injury, George had a right to bust a cap on Treyvon, lacerating Treyvon&#039;s liver and lungs and exploding Treyhvonj&#039;s heart causing deatgh in five minutes. There is little doubt that Treyvun suffered intensely and for over three minutesbut justifiably so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The situation changed when Treyvun confronted George. With George walking away, he was no longer a threat to Treyvun. Treyvun became a threat to George, when Treyvun asked George if he had a problem, and then punched George in the face and knocked him down and sat astride Geoge and banged George&#039;s head on the concrete, causing a wound.At that point, in fear of death or bodily injury, George had a right to bust a cap on Treyvon, lacerating Treyvon&#039;s liver and lungs and exploding Treyhvonj&#039;s heart causing deatgh in five minutes. There is little doubt that Treyvun suffered intensely and for over three minutesbut justifiably so.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary o</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 15:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The United States constitution allows anyone to travel.  To travel to follow someone; a freedom and sovereign right.  To travel in the foot steps of another, if so to choose. The origin of appearance presented by the member of an association known as a member of the bar, is an opinion based in ones desire for a decided outcome.  There is no discussion of neutrality of administrative law, this blog this Mr. Hahn presents. 

There is no discussion of consideration of two people changing the path that does not cross another.  A player had a chance option of dialogue; chose to tress pass in ones right to life.  The outcome need not be, what is at hand.  A simple conversation would have not marked the benefit of those who would dialogue in consideration.  

There is a result that need not be discussed, had the hands of one, not trespassed upon the contact of another.  Words, anger, posturing breaks no bones.  Why is this case so easy to be understood to benefit the very association, that relies upon this type of action for its market place.  It is clear the members of an association, wishes to make appearance of license, of which it is of colour, but not of the great law upon this land, well traveled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The United States constitution allows anyone to travel.  To travel to follow someone; a freedom and sovereign right.  To travel in the foot steps of another, if so to choose. The origin of appearance presented by the member of an association known as a member of the bar, is an opinion based in ones desire for a decided outcome.  There is no discussion of neutrality of administrative law, this blog this Mr. Hahn presents. </p>
<p>There is no discussion of consideration of two people changing the path that does not cross another.  A player had a chance option of dialogue; chose to tress pass in ones right to life.  The outcome need not be, what is at hand.  A simple conversation would have not marked the benefit of those who would dialogue in consideration.  </p>
<p>There is a result that need not be discussed, had the hands of one, not trespassed upon the contact of another.  Words, anger, posturing breaks no bones.  Why is this case so easy to be understood to benefit the very association, that relies upon this type of action for its market place.  It is clear the members of an association, wishes to make appearance of license, of which it is of colour, but not of the great law upon this land, well traveled.</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 12:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless the prosecution produces some yet-unknown evidence, Zimmerman likely won&#039;t have to introduce evidence rebutting the findings because those findings would be baseless, seeing as the narrative you attribute to the prosecution is erroneous according to what little information that has been released. You seem to be relying on erroneous media reports and debunked statements made by the Martin&#039;s attorney, but then again so does the prosecutor&#039;s affidavit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless the prosecution produces some yet-unknown evidence, Zimmerman likely won&#039;t have to introduce evidence rebutting the findings because those findings would be baseless, seeing as the narrative you attribute to the prosecution is erroneous according to what little information that has been released. You seem to be relying on erroneous media reports and debunked statements made by the Martin&#039;s attorney, but then again so does the prosecutor&#039;s affidavit.</p>
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