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	<title>Comments on: Zimmerman&#039;s Low Burden of Proof on the Issue of Self Defense</title>
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		<title>By: Spokker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spokker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2012 03:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;taking a gun with you&quot;

Haha, he can take a gun with him whether he was &quot;stalking&quot; a black teenager, watering the lawn or taking a dump. He was licensed to conceal carry. 

I don&#039;t think I can accuse the anti-Zimmerman camp of this with 100% confidence, but they do sometimes make it seem like Zimmerman drew his weapon and ran after Martin in an aggressive manner. 

I doubt the evidence at the trial will tell us exactly what happened. I think Zimmerman will get off.</description>
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<p>Haha, he can take a gun with him whether he was &#034;stalking&#034; a black teenager, watering the lawn or taking a dump. He was licensed to conceal carry. </p>
<p>I don&#039;t think I can accuse the anti-Zimmerman camp of this with 100% confidence, but they do sometimes make it seem like Zimmerman drew his weapon and ran after Martin in an aggressive manner. </p>
<p>I doubt the evidence at the trial will tell us exactly what happened. I think Zimmerman will get off.</p>
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		<title>By: What if Zimmermann Walks? - Page 22</title>
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		<dc:creator>What if Zimmermann Walks? - Page 22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 13:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] leave the jury with a reasonable doubt about whether he was justified in using deadly force.  http://www.ohioverticals.com/blogs/a...-self-defense/    You dont have a clue as to American law.           Reply With [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] leave the jury with a reasonable doubt about whether he was justified in using deadly force.  <a href="http://www.ohioverticals.com/blogs/a...-self-defense/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ohioverticals.com/blogs/a&#8230;-self-defense/</a>    You dont have a clue as to American law.           Reply With [...]</p>
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		<title>By: E. Joyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>E. Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 17:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gandydancer, Calling 911 and their telling you NOT to approach him, you ignoring their instruction, getting out of your car and following them when no other person is in immediate and life-threatening danger is a conscious decision. Taking a gun along with you, when there is no visible weapon, is at best egregious decision making, at worst a conscious premeditated decision to murder someone.  He was shot point blank, in the heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gandydancer, Calling 911 and their telling you NOT to approach him, you ignoring their instruction, getting out of your car and following them when no other person is in immediate and life-threatening danger is a conscious decision. Taking a gun along with you, when there is no visible weapon, is at best egregious decision making, at worst a conscious premeditated decision to murder someone.  He was shot point blank, in the heart.</p>
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		<title>By: George Zimmerman prosecutors file list of witnesses, evidence in Trayvon Martin shoot - Page 26</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Zimmerman prosecutors file list of witnesses, evidence in Trayvon Martin shoot - Page 26</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 21:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zimmerman in Hiding - Page 59</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zimmerman in Hiding - Page 59</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2012 02:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alacran</title>
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		<dc:creator>alacran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 01:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is really irrelevant to the self defense issue, but he did not admit to &quot;stalking&quot; under FL law.  The only way they could prove he was the instigator, is that if they could prove he attacked Martin, initially, and so far, we haven&#039;t heard anything that proves that.  Now, they may be able to do it, but don&#039;t see it yet.  I have a question.  Would you argue with an article by physicians about a surgical procedure?  Why are you arguing with the legal anallysis, that is done by equal professionals.  Even the prosecutor has admitted that she will have a rough go of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is really irrelevant to the self defense issue, but he did not admit to &#034;stalking&#034; under FL law.  The only way they could prove he was the instigator, is that if they could prove he attacked Martin, initially, and so far, we haven&#039;t heard anything that proves that.  Now, they may be able to do it, but don&#039;t see it yet.  I have a question.  Would you argue with an article by physicians about a surgical procedure?  Why are you arguing with the legal anallysis, that is done by equal professionals.  Even the prosecutor has admitted that she will have a rough go of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Herb Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herb Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 01:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Goldie, he didn&#039;t admit to &#039;stalking&#039;,you or someone has invented that.

There is in fact no evidence (in what is publicly known) Zimmerman followed closely, profiled, or confronted Martin - even though none of those action are necessarily illegal.

Zimmerman well have walked along behind Martin, even asked him what he was doing or where he lived - but there is not even evidence for this.

As long as Zimmerman wasn&#039;t breaking the law when, (and if) as Zimmerman, claims, Martin came up behind him, challenged him an then ASSAULTED him.  

Zimmerman has copious evidence that Martin was already in the process of doing great bodily harm or perhaps even likely to kill.

That is all it takes.  If Zimmerman was not acting illegally when Martin attacked him, case over.

Expect it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Goldie, he didn&#039;t admit to &#039;stalking&#039;,you or someone has invented that.</p>
<p>There is in fact no evidence (in what is publicly known) Zimmerman followed closely, profiled, or confronted Martin &#8211; even though none of those action are necessarily illegal.</p>
<p>Zimmerman well have walked along behind Martin, even asked him what he was doing or where he lived &#8211; but there is not even evidence for this.</p>
<p>As long as Zimmerman wasn&#039;t breaking the law when, (and if) as Zimmerman, claims, Martin came up behind him, challenged him an then ASSAULTED him.  </p>
<p>Zimmerman has copious evidence that Martin was already in the process of doing great bodily harm or perhaps even likely to kill.</p>
<p>That is all it takes.  If Zimmerman was not acting illegally when Martin attacked him, case over.</p>
<p>Expect it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gandydancer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gandydancer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2012 05:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Goldie: Keeping someone in sight so that you can identify them to the police, whom you have called, is not &quot;stalking&quot; under any statute of which I am aware. Perhaps you care to provide a citation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Goldie: Keeping someone in sight so that you can identify them to the police, whom you have called, is not &#034;stalking&#034; under any statute of which I am aware. Perhaps you care to provide a citation?</p>
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		<title>By: Goldie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goldie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 04:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zimmerman already admitted to stalking the teen on the 911 call. Stalking is against the law in Florida, and of course stalking someone for no reason not breaking any laws is illegal. Zimmerman also exited his vehicle to pursue the victim bringing with him his firearm, that is aggravated stalking. The 911 calls make it clear that Zimmerman created the entire situation based on his false suspicions. That makes Zimmerman the instigator of the incident and directly responsible the death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zimmerman already admitted to stalking the teen on the 911 call. Stalking is against the law in Florida, and of course stalking someone for no reason not breaking any laws is illegal. Zimmerman also exited his vehicle to pursue the victim bringing with him his firearm, that is aggravated stalking. The 911 calls make it clear that Zimmerman created the entire situation based on his false suspicions. That makes Zimmerman the instigator of the incident and directly responsible the death.</p>
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		<title>By: Roach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good analysis.</description>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 12:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s going to be a tough row for the prosecutor but hopefully praising and praying with Trayvon&#039;s parents will keep the race riots to a minimum. Maybe they should stock the jury with toothless white rednecks to help deflect the blame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s going to be a tough row for the prosecutor but hopefully praising and praying with Trayvon&#039;s parents will keep the race riots to a minimum. Maybe they should stock the jury with toothless white rednecks to help deflect the blame.</p>
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