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	<title>Comments on: Report: Browns have first-round offers for Brady Quinn</title>
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		<title>By: wildbill</title>
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		<dc:creator>wildbill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why bother to read anything Mike Lombardi &quot;writes&quot;?  He&#039;s a stiff.</description>
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		<title>By: Bubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we trade Quinn he will be buying tickets to NFL games in 2 years. 

Of course you take a one for Quinn and the Browns are desperately trying to convince a team to give them one or even an early 2nd.

Putting the story into the media that we have a first on the table for him is designed to spark interest in Quinn. It is the Kokonis way of marketing and advertising that Quinn is very available and allowing him to be able to deny we are marketing him.

Next good ten plus yard throw Quinn makes will be his first he makes in a Browns uniform. None in games, practices or preseason. But fear not he is trying yet another fix for his poor throwing that results in his accuracy problems and he promises this time it will work.

Goodbye Quinn, if only a team can be desperate enough to give us a first. 

Start a bad rumor about Stratford, Sanchez and Freeman and maybe a team that wants one of them would settle for Quinn. Heck a team that needs a QB might take White from WV before they trade the pick for Quinn. 

When Weiss told his buddy McDaniels  to pass on Quinn and take Orton, the chances of dumping Quinn probably ended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we trade Quinn he will be buying tickets to NFL games in 2 years. </p>
<p>Of course you take a one for Quinn and the Browns are desperately trying to convince a team to give them one or even an early 2nd.</p>
<p>Putting the story into the media that we have a first on the table for him is designed to spark interest in Quinn. It is the Kokonis way of marketing and advertising that Quinn is very available and allowing him to be able to deny we are marketing him.</p>
<p>Next good ten plus yard throw Quinn makes will be his first he makes in a Browns uniform. None in games, practices or preseason. But fear not he is trying yet another fix for his poor throwing that results in his accuracy problems and he promises this time it will work.</p>
<p>Goodbye Quinn, if only a team can be desperate enough to give us a first. </p>
<p>Start a bad rumor about Stratford, Sanchez and Freeman and maybe a team that wants one of them would settle for Quinn. Heck a team that needs a QB might take White from WV before they trade the pick for Quinn. </p>
<p>When Weiss told his buddy McDaniels  to pass on Quinn and take Orton, the chances of dumping Quinn probably ended.</p>
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		<title>By: Foz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW The Browns has one of the 2nd easiest schedules in football the year of 10-6. Thier only win that year to a team with a winning record was to Seattle who had the the (1st) easiest schedule in football and we barely won that one at home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW The Browns has one of the 2nd easiest schedules in football the year of 10-6. Thier only win that year to a team with a winning record was to Seattle who had the the (1st) easiest schedule in football and we barely won that one at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Foz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quinn was selected 22nd Overall. Last offensive Player selected was Marshawn Lynch at 12 for Buffalo. Last offensive player slected before him was Miami, where he was projected. Obviously this tells you those teams who drafted players had defensive needs. Miami, well everyone knows that story. Cam Cameron took a 9-7 team and drove them into the ground at 1-15. It should have been no surprise that they would bounce back after getting compentent leadership. Do some research before you say stupid shit, makes you sound ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quinn was selected 22nd Overall. Last offensive Player selected was Marshawn Lynch at 12 for Buffalo. Last offensive player slected before him was Miami, where he was projected. Obviously this tells you those teams who drafted players had defensive needs. Miami, well everyone knows that story. Cam Cameron took a 9-7 team and drove them into the ground at 1-15. It should have been no surprise that they would bounce back after getting compentent leadership. Do some research before you say stupid shit, makes you sound ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: Foz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>90% of the people on here are idiots. Seriously most of you are stupid. I&#039;ve heard all kinds of shit on here.

In the 30 or so comments Ive read only 2 or 3 have made any sense.
- We need a clutch receiver to replace JJ
- The defense is pathetic, except Shaun Rodgers.
- The reminder that Quinn actually cost a 1st and 2nd round pick.

Bottom Line
-Regardless of how you feel about Quinn, no Quarterback in this years draft is as good a him. Mark Sanchez IMO reaks of Alex Smith. 
-Browns only scored 30 points (roughly) twice last years, during Quinns starts. Afterwhich we went 5 consecutive games without an offensive touchdown.
-DA was directly responsible for both Baltimore losses last year.
-This gripe that Braylon wants to double his contract this next year, its onyl because he&#039;s already gotten another 5 mill cap added on this year from his signing bonus. Remember 3rd overall pick in 05. We would be eatting that 5 mill for shipping him away. Where else is NY gonna get a &quot;physically talented&quot; reciever as Braylon for 4.5 mill. 
-Braylon is an idiot, no heart. ENough reason to get rid of him there, but only for reasonable compensation; which IMO is a first and third.
-Peyton Manning didnt win any &quot;big games&quot; from 1998-2005 season so therefor he sucks right, the other 21 players dont matter. Dan Marino never won the big game in the NFL either, he must suck too right. If anyone actually watched a friggin Notre Dame game and looked at thier record after he left they would see that Quinn carried that team.
-Walsh, maybe some of you real fans heard of him, he&#039;s in the Pro Football HoF. Will tell you take what the defense will give you, they give you 10 yard underroute passes then take them all day long. Quinn has an arm, but 2 wks of preparation hardly constitutes the need to throw long. Throwing long is what losers do when they are behind. Mind you we still scored nearly 30 points in both those games Quinn started before tearing the tendon in is throwing finger. 30 Points... didnt look impressive did it, he made it look easy. You know like quality pitching in baseball, you all want HR hitters but pitching is what seals the wins. Remember Jose Mesa.

Dumb shit I&#039;ve heard
-Cribbs isnt a everydown reciever ??? He&#039;s not even techincally a reciever, granted he practices with them. But when you are averaging 30 yards  per kick return and leading the special teams on tackles it difficult to get playing time. What an idiot, choke yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>90% of the people on here are idiots. Seriously most of you are stupid. I&#039;ve heard all kinds of shit on here.</p>
<p>In the 30 or so comments Ive read only 2 or 3 have made any sense.<br />
- We need a clutch receiver to replace JJ<br />
- The defense is pathetic, except Shaun Rodgers.<br />
- The reminder that Quinn actually cost a 1st and 2nd round pick.</p>
<p>Bottom Line<br />
-Regardless of how you feel about Quinn, no Quarterback in this years draft is as good a him. Mark Sanchez IMO reaks of Alex Smith.<br />
-Browns only scored 30 points (roughly) twice last years, during Quinns starts. Afterwhich we went 5 consecutive games without an offensive touchdown.<br />
-DA was directly responsible for both Baltimore losses last year.<br />
-This gripe that Braylon wants to double his contract this next year, its onyl because he&#039;s already gotten another 5 mill cap added on this year from his signing bonus. Remember 3rd overall pick in 05. We would be eatting that 5 mill for shipping him away. Where else is NY gonna get a &#034;physically talented&#034; reciever as Braylon for 4.5 mill.<br />
-Braylon is an idiot, no heart. ENough reason to get rid of him there, but only for reasonable compensation; which IMO is a first and third.<br />
-Peyton Manning didnt win any &#034;big games&#034; from 1998-2005 season so therefor he sucks right, the other 21 players dont matter. Dan Marino never won the big game in the NFL either, he must suck too right. If anyone actually watched a friggin Notre Dame game and looked at thier record after he left they would see that Quinn carried that team.<br />
-Walsh, maybe some of you real fans heard of him, he&#039;s in the Pro Football HoF. Will tell you take what the defense will give you, they give you 10 yard underroute passes then take them all day long. Quinn has an arm, but 2 wks of preparation hardly constitutes the need to throw long. Throwing long is what losers do when they are behind. Mind you we still scored nearly 30 points in both those games Quinn started before tearing the tendon in is throwing finger. 30 Points&#8230; didnt look impressive did it, he made it look easy. You know like quality pitching in baseball, you all want HR hitters but pitching is what seals the wins. Remember Jose Mesa.</p>
<p>Dumb shit I&#039;ve heard<br />
-Cribbs isnt a everydown reciever ??? He&#039;s not even techincally a reciever, granted he practices with them. But when you are averaging 30 yards  per kick return and leading the special teams on tackles it difficult to get playing time. What an idiot, choke yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Brady Q</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brady Q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go ahead and trade me! See you 8/22 and 11/22!
It&#039;s only a 3 hour commute from Avon Lake, Ohio!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go ahead and trade me! See you 8/22 and 11/22!<br />
It&#039;s only a 3 hour commute from Avon Lake, Ohio!</p>
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		<title>By: Bill from Wooster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill from Wooster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A)  DA has NO trade value.  A one-year wonder is not &quot;wanted&quot; by any other team in the NFL.  
B)  BQ is NOT a true first round pick.  ONLY the Cleveland Browns were &quot;smart&quot; enough to ransom the next year&#039;s draft to move up to take him at #22.  NO other team drafting IN FRONT of the Browns picked BQ...including at least FOUR teams who NEEDED a QB.  Ever wonder WHY? 
C)  Crennell/Savage...the brains behind this &quot;first round pick&quot; are no longer affiliated with the Browns.  Crennell naming BQ the starter has absolutely ZERO weight with a new coach/GM.  By the way....I wonder where the &quot;new&quot; coach/GM had the &quot;savior&quot; rated on THEIR draft board?  I highly DOUBT that it was ANYWHERE between #1-22 or even in the top 32.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A)  DA has NO trade value.  A one-year wonder is not &#034;wanted&#034; by any other team in the NFL.<br />
B)  BQ is NOT a true first round pick.  ONLY the Cleveland Browns were &#034;smart&#034; enough to ransom the next year&#039;s draft to move up to take him at #22.  NO other team drafting IN FRONT of the Browns picked BQ&#8230;including at least FOUR teams who NEEDED a QB.  Ever wonder WHY?<br />
C)  Crennell/Savage&#8230;the brains behind this &#034;first round pick&#034; are no longer affiliated with the Browns.  Crennell naming BQ the starter has absolutely ZERO weight with a new coach/GM.  By the way&#8230;.I wonder where the &#034;new&#034; coach/GM had the &#034;savior&#034; rated on THEIR draft board?  I highly DOUBT that it was ANYWHERE between #1-22 or even in the top 32.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott From Sarasota</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott From Sarasota</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idiots that are Mangini and Kokonis will probably do the Quinn trade. Never mind the fact that Anderson was 1/2 season wonder.  But hey they say, he&#039;s got a big arm.  And yes, Mangini, a two bit brain.

Quinn&#039;s trial under fire was not a complete trial. His line was bad; the offensive game scheme was worse. Give the guy the rock, get him some players who can actually catch the ball, get Lewis untracked and watch Brady roll.  I mean it, he can roll out, he can scramble and he can throw it nearly as fair as Two Bit.  Meanwhile, every defensive player and coach know where Anderson will be when he&#039;s passing.  SACK CITY.

Trade Anderson will he still has some value.  Trade Edwards since he wants out anyway. Get some skill players in the 2nd round.

And let&#039;s build around a QB who excelled in college and actually wants to be a lifetime Brown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idiots that are Mangini and Kokonis will probably do the Quinn trade. Never mind the fact that Anderson was 1/2 season wonder.  But hey they say, he&#039;s got a big arm.  And yes, Mangini, a two bit brain.</p>
<p>Quinn&#039;s trial under fire was not a complete trial. His line was bad; the offensive game scheme was worse. Give the guy the rock, get him some players who can actually catch the ball, get Lewis untracked and watch Brady roll.  I mean it, he can roll out, he can scramble and he can throw it nearly as fair as Two Bit.  Meanwhile, every defensive player and coach know where Anderson will be when he&#039;s passing.  SACK CITY.</p>
<p>Trade Anderson will he still has some value.  Trade Edwards since he wants out anyway. Get some skill players in the 2nd round.</p>
<p>And let&#039;s build around a QB who excelled in college and actually wants to be a lifetime Brown.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story is nothing.  Not surprising that they have received a first round offer for Quinn; there is nothing he has shown in limited playing time to suggest that he doesn&#039;t have talent.  That doesn&#039;t mean the Browns plan to trade him.  What does &quot;holding out for more?&quot; mean--that the Browns have announced to someone that &quot;You bet we want to trade Quinn, but we&#039;re &quot;holding out for more?&quot;  Garbage.  The</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story is nothing.  Not surprising that they have received a first round offer for Quinn; there is nothing he has shown in limited playing time to suggest that he doesn&#039;t have talent.  That doesn&#039;t mean the Browns plan to trade him.  What does &#034;holding out for more?&#034; mean&#8211;that the Browns have announced to someone that &#034;You bet we want to trade Quinn, but we&#039;re &#034;holding out for more?&#034;  Garbage.  The</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sports is getting just like politics.  If you say something enough times, people start to believe it regardless of whether there is any underlying basis.  Quinn began to drop in the 2007 draft because some &quot;experts&quot; began to question his accuracy.  He completed roughly 65% of his passes as a junior and 62% of his passes as a senior.  In those two years he threw 69 TD passes vs 14 interceptions.  How do these stats translate into being called inaccurate?  ND was relevant again because Quinn was playing quaterback and they ceased to be relavant when he graduated.  And please don&#039;t tell me that he was surrounded by great talent because everyone knows that he was not.  Certainly, the talent at ND did not compare to the talent that has surrounded Matt Sanchez at USC, the guy who is rising on everyone&#039;s draft board after starting a mere 16 games.  With his limited playing time, it may be more appropriate to compare Sanchez to Akili Smith.  As for those of you that now believe that Quinn does not have enough arm strength, even the &quot;experts&quot; said that his arm strength was better than average.  That Quinn fell into their lap because he dropped so far in the draft was a great stroke of luck for the Browns.  Similar to the luck that brought Aaron Rodgers to Green Bay.  Rodgers began to fall in the draft for no apparent reason as people began to fall in love with Smith.  How much do you think the 49ers would like to have a do over on that one?  To send Quinn packing without ever giving him a chance would prove once again that the new Browns ownership is simply unable to select the right management for this team.  Clearly, they were hoping that Mangini, in his second head coaching job, would become the Bill Belicek that coaches NE.  One difference is that Belicek went back to being a coordinator under Parcells for a few more years before he got another head coaching job.  Hiring Mangini immediately after he was fired by the Jets only mangaged to inflate his ego even more.  He actually was allowed to select the GM.  For Mangini this appears to be all about ego and power.  The Browns have not hired another Belicek.  The Browns have hired another Butch Davis.  If they trade Quinn, it is not likely to end well for the Browns.  And remember, the Mangini Jets traded away Pennington, presumably because of his lack of arm strength.  While Pennington&#039;s are strength is clearly well below average, the Dolphins, a team that had only won a single game the year before, finished ahead of the Jets with Pennington at QB, leading to Mangini being fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sports is getting just like politics.  If you say something enough times, people start to believe it regardless of whether there is any underlying basis.  Quinn began to drop in the 2007 draft because some &#034;experts&#034; began to question his accuracy.  He completed roughly 65% of his passes as a junior and 62% of his passes as a senior.  In those two years he threw 69 TD passes vs 14 interceptions.  How do these stats translate into being called inaccurate?  ND was relevant again because Quinn was playing quaterback and they ceased to be relavant when he graduated.  And please don&#039;t tell me that he was surrounded by great talent because everyone knows that he was not.  Certainly, the talent at ND did not compare to the talent that has surrounded Matt Sanchez at USC, the guy who is rising on everyone&#039;s draft board after starting a mere 16 games.  With his limited playing time, it may be more appropriate to compare Sanchez to Akili Smith.  As for those of you that now believe that Quinn does not have enough arm strength, even the &#034;experts&#034; said that his arm strength was better than average.  That Quinn fell into their lap because he dropped so far in the draft was a great stroke of luck for the Browns.  Similar to the luck that brought Aaron Rodgers to Green Bay.  Rodgers began to fall in the draft for no apparent reason as people began to fall in love with Smith.  How much do you think the 49ers would like to have a do over on that one?  To send Quinn packing without ever giving him a chance would prove once again that the new Browns ownership is simply unable to select the right management for this team.  Clearly, they were hoping that Mangini, in his second head coaching job, would become the Bill Belicek that coaches NE.  One difference is that Belicek went back to being a coordinator under Parcells for a few more years before he got another head coaching job.  Hiring Mangini immediately after he was fired by the Jets only mangaged to inflate his ego even more.  He actually was allowed to select the GM.  For Mangini this appears to be all about ego and power.  The Browns have not hired another Belicek.  The Browns have hired another Butch Davis.  If they trade Quinn, it is not likely to end well for the Browns.  And remember, the Mangini Jets traded away Pennington, presumably because of his lack of arm strength.  While Pennington&#039;s are strength is clearly well below average, the Dolphins, a team that had only won a single game the year before, finished ahead of the Jets with Pennington at QB, leading to Mangini being fired.</p>
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